Mark Fox wrote:
> wbarwell <***@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> news:<40c2ab23$0$17095$***@news.mylinuxisp.com>...
>> Mark Fox wrote:
>>
>> > Dave Grey <***@way.today> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> In Benito Mussolini's own definition, Fascism is described as a
>> >> political system where corporate and state power are merged, the
>> >> people exist largely to serve the state, the value of democracy is
>> >> rejected, and militarism rather than deplomacy is seen as the superior
>> >> solution to foreign policy
>> >> problems. All of these components are present in both US political
>> >> parties' platforms to some degree, but the GOP is quite literally
>> >> Fascist by the original definition of the term.
>> >
>> > You are quite the clever propagandist. Tell a really big lie often
>> > enough and the people might just believe it.
>>
>>
>> Mussolini invented the term fascism and defined it.
>> In the 20's, he was invited to write an essay on
>> the definiton of fascism for the new edition of Italy's
>> best known encyclopedia.
>>
>> Google for it, its aroundon the net.
>>
>> His prose is a bit purple, but if you want to know what
>> fascism is, this is the original definition by the man who
>> defined the term.
>>
>> And yes, Bush's adminstration pretty much fits.
>>
>>
>>
>> > The only thing you got correct above is that fascism is where the
>> > people exist largely to serve the state. But by your own definition
>> > the liberals are the fascists.
>>
>> No, the GOP is. It is the party that has no need for rights
>> and gives all to its oligarchy big business buddies but expecst the
>> little people to serve the state.
>
> The GOP isn't trying to control your wages and draft your children.
You mean, by rewriting laws that will cause millions to lose their overtime
rights to appease big business?
You mean by refusing t raise minmum wages to allow a living wage for a full
time worker?
You mean by doing little to try to stop sending American jobs overseas?
you mean like the incessent union busting that Reagan ushered in
as a GOP habit?
As for the draft, Bush has essentially drafted people by extending their
stays in Iraq, and the GOP Congress is moving to make sure young American
boys are all registered when they need a draft.
We were talking Mussolini. Part of Mussolini's definition of fascism was
his claims that war was a desirable state enterprise, not that Mussolini
was all that good at war. War manly! War good! Grunt, grunt! He could
beat Libya's Bedouin, and Ethiopia sheep herder tribes, but after Hitler
took Northern France, Mussolini invaded Southern Vichy France and lost.
Hitler had to send troop to extract him. One of France's few WWII
successes. Mussolini did not do well
against the Brits in Africa, or at Malta.
Mussolini's army was Britains biggest supplier of tanks
in the early days of Britains battle against Rommel.
Mussolini's fascism, pro-war, has long been part of the fascist GOP
policy.
Reagan wagged the dog in Grenada and really, we did not do to well
against very poorly armed Cubans.
Only the fact they were badly outnumbered, and had no way
of getting arms or reinforcments allowed Reagan to eventually beat them.
He bombed Libya and missed his target.
He sold weapons to our bitterest enemy, Khomeini.
Reagan then pulled a Mussolini in Lebanon.
247 dead marines later, Reagan bugged out.
Bush let Saddam think he could get away with invading Kuwait.
He managed to beat Saddam, but most right wingers who praise his Mussolini
like resolve to go to war never bother to criticize his stupidity that made
that war needed.
Bush later stuck us in Somalia and waltzed off.
Basically, excepting Desert Storm and its attendent war crimes, bombing
The GOP has been more Mussolini than Julius Caesar.
Clinton lead a real coalition that crushed the genocidal
Milosevic wars of Serbian expansion.
And put and end to the chaos of Haiti for a while.
And prepared an army capable of dealing with Afghanistan,
knowing that was some day coming, an army prepared to go
when Bush needed it to be done.
And then, war president Bush, pumped up with Mussolini-like
arrogance, lied us into an uneccesary war for not very good
reasons. And like Mussolini, can't handle it now he got his war.
The GOP/Fascist warlike chest thumping is straight Mussolini.
Cheap, second rate fascism.
War is a manly endeavor, weak willed democracies
that avoid war are soft and weak. Grunt! Grunt!
We have seen a lot of that over the years in these political newsgroups
from the pro-facsistic war grunters. Until Clinton's success in
Yugoslvia, Kosovo, and Haiti such their fascist yaps.
Too bad that when they get their war, they can't
handle it often as not.
Bush and his neocon fascists thought that war was good politics, like
Mussolini. Rove had dreamy little dreams of a triumphant Bush,
a War President, running up 80%, 90% approval ratings.
A Bush welcomes in the streets of Iraq with flowers and candy and
triumphant mobs. And massive approval ratings just in time for an election.
But we don't have a Hitler to extricate Mussolini, er Bush
from his Vichy quagmire. Errr, Iraq tar baby quagmire.
This arrogant whelp of Mussolini's ideology arrogantly dismissed "old
Europe" and the UN in his rush to manly, fascist war.
And now begs them to help extricate himself.
"No chance, you son of a silly person! Now go away!"
All hail War! Fascism is for war and war promotes Fascism!
All hail Mussolini, that warlike thumper of podiums!
All hail Bush, the self proclaimed War President!
And thumper of TV cameras.
Google Mussolini, fascism, war.
How like Bush and his neocon crew.
"Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat its errors."
- George Santayana
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie